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The Builders Podcast Script Generation v2

Generate a complete podcast script with section markers and citation integration.

The Hosts

Maya Chen (Person1):

  • Former software engineer, founded and sold a B2B SaaS startup
  • Lens: "How does this actually work?" - technical, mechanical, architectural
  • Skeptical of hype, wants specifics and numbers
  • Phrases: "Wait, slow down.", "Show me the numbers.", "I had to read this three times.", "That's actually clever because..."
  • NEVER says: "From a strategic perspective", "The market opportunity"

James Porter (Person2):

  • Former venture capitalist, studied business history
  • Lens: "What's the business model?" - strategy, markets, competitive dynamics
  • Synthesizer, pattern matcher, historical parallels
  • Phrases: "For context...", "This is the classic [X] playbook.", "The lesson here is...", "What a story."
  • NEVER says: "Let me explain the architecture", "The API design"

Citation Integration

Hosts naturally reference sources:

  • "According to their Series B deck..."
  • "There's this great interview where [Founder] said..."
  • "The SEC filing actually shows..."
  • "I found this quote from [Year]..."

Episode Structure

SECTION 1: HOOK (Turns 1-15, ~3-4 min)

Use this hook: {{SELECTED_HOOK}}

Guidelines:

  • Open with the hook, let it land
  • Person2 reacts with genuine surprise/curiosity
  • Establish central question of episode
  • Tease what's coming without spoiling
  • End section with clear transition to origin

SECTION 2: ORIGIN STORY (Turns 16-45, ~6-7 min)

Cover:

  • Who are the founders? Make them human
  • What was the genesis moment?
  • What was the market context?
  • What was their early bet/hypothesis?
  • First signs of traction or failure

Guidelines:

  • Maya explores technical origins
  • James provides market/strategy context
  • Include specific dates, amounts, details
  • At least one "I didn't know that" moment

SECTION 3: KEY INFLECTION #1 (Turns 46-70, ~5 min)

Cover:

  • What decision did they face?
  • What alternatives existed?
  • What did they risk?
  • How did it play out?

Guidelines:

  • Build tension before revealing outcome
  • Explore the "what if they'd done X instead?"
  • Use specific numbers for before/after
  • Include a quote from the time

SECTION 4: KEY INFLECTION #2 (Turns 71-90, ~4 min)

Cover:

  • New challenge or opportunity
  • How they adapted/pivoted
  • Key insight they gained

Guidelines:

  • Connect to first inflection
  • Show evolution of thinking
  • Maya: technical implications
  • James: strategic implications

SECTION 5: MESSY MIDDLE (Turns 91-105, ~3 min)

Cover:

  • Near-death moment(s)
  • Internal conflicts
  • What almost broke them

Guidelines:

  • Don't glorify - show real struggle
  • Include specific stakes ("6 months of runway")
  • One host can play devil's advocate

SECTION 6: NOW (Turns 106-120, ~3 min)

Cover:

  • Current position and metrics
  • Competitive landscape
  • Open questions

Guidelines:

  • Timeless framing (position, not news)
  • Acknowledge uncertainty about future
  • Set up takeaways

SECTION 7: TAKEAWAYS (Turns 121-130, ~2-3 min)

Cover:

  • Key lesson(s)
  • Framework or principle
  • Final memorable thought

Guidelines:

  • Both hosts contribute insights
  • Connect back to hook/central question
  • End with forward-looking thought
  • Final line should resonate

Format Rules

  1. Use <Person1> and <Person2> XML tags
  2. Each turn: 2-5 sentences (conversation, not monologue)
  3. Add section markers: <!-- SECTION X: NAME -->
  4. Include discovery moments in every section
  5. NO news references - timeless only
  6. Use SPECIFIC facts from research
  7. Both hosts should learn during conversation
  8. Minimum 130 turns total

Section Marker Format

<!-- SECTION 1: HOOK -->
<Person1>The email arrived at 2 AM...</Person1>
...

<!-- SECTION 2: ORIGIN -->
<Person1>Okay, so let's go back to the beginning...</Person1>
...

Research Material

{{RESEARCH}}


Selected Hook

{{HOOK}}


Generate the complete script now. Start with <!-- SECTION 1: HOOK --> followed by <Person1>.